Denis Hobbins and Catherine Quinlisk Marriage

Denis Hobbins and Catherine Quinlisk were married 25 February 1838 in Terryglass, Tipperary Co., Ireland.

Patrick Hobbins 1839 and a Denis Hobbins 1841 was born of this marital union. No sign of Martin. Perhaps he was born somewhere on the journey to Canada.

Little Denis did not appear in the 1451 Census

We find Denis 1813 in Canada in th 1851/52 Census, so at some point they journeyed to Canada.  But only Patrick and Martin, no little Denis.

The Hobbins family tree

I realized that if someone stumbled across this page they would have no idea what I was rambling on about so I thought I should do a little genealogy report. So here it is.

Descendants of Denis HOBBINS



1 Denis HOBBINS 1807 - 1871
.. +Catherine Quinlisk 1817 – 1851
2 Patrick Joseph Hobbins 1839 - 1893
......... +Catherine Mary O'Brien 1842 - 1920
.... 2 Martin Hobbins 1843 - 1912

*2nd Wife of Denis HOBBINS:
.. +Ellen LOUGHNANE 1821 - WFT Est. 1885-1916
....
.... 2 John Hobbins 1849 - WFT Est. 1850-1939
.... 2 Margaret Hobbins 1851 - WFT Est. 1852-1945
.... 2 Patrick Hobbins 1853 - 1854
.... 2 Catherine Hobbins 1854 - 1901
......... +Maurice O'Brien 1842 - 1886
.... *2nd Husband of Catherine Hobbins:
......... +James Scott 1845 - 1919
.... 2 Anne Holly Hobbins 1857 - WFT Est. 1858-1951
......... +Patrick Kane 1860 - 1926
.... 2 Ellen Hobbins 1858 - 1937
......... +James Clancy 1860 - 1935
.... 2 Denis Hobbins 1860 - 1928
......... +Annie Brith Armstrong 1861 - 1904

John, Margaret and Patrick were Denis's step children

In the 1861 Census for Ashburnham, Peterborough County, Upper Canada there is a John, Margaret and Patrick #2 Hobbins listed as Denis and Ellen's children.

We know that Catherine Quinlisk died about 1851. Patrick #2 is born in 1853. So they may have gotten married between then and before Catherine was born in 1854.

There is birth information for a John, and Margaret born to Michael Heenan and Ellen Loughnan. I'll have to check for Patrick too.

I previously thought Patrick was Denis's biological child and always wondered where he got to because there was no mention after 1881. I find him later marrying as Patrick Heenan parents Michael Heenan and Ellen Lucknane. Another mystery solved.

Catherine Quinlisk b. 1821 Ireland

The 1851 census was not taken until 1852.................

There we find Denis Hobbins age 39, Patrick Hobbins age 13, and Martin Hobbins age 9 listed but no wife or mother.

On the second page, which it took me a couple years to discover, Denis is listed as a widower,
and a female in the house that died in 1851 at the age of 35.

Other information is the boys attended school and they lived in a one floor shanty.

I realized that Ellen Loughnane must be his second wife who he married in Canada and she is not the mother of Patrick and Martin but is for the rest of the children!

So Ellen and Dennis must have been married between 1852 and 1853 as Catherine was born in 1854. I have not yet found a record. There doesn't seem to be any records for this time period.

The other children; John, born 1849 and Margaret born 1851 and Patrick born 1854 I discovered in research that Ellen was previously married a Michael Heenan and he is the father of these children, even though they are listed as Hobbins in the 1861 Cda Census.




Nov 2009
The Church Baptism Record for Patrick shows a Catherine Quinlisk as mother. The records for this area seem to start about 1827,

Irish Naming Traditions and Denis Hobbins b. 1813

HOBBINS, Denis born: about 1813 possibly in Tipperary, Ireland.

I found an article on Irish naming traditions.

Nineteenth-century Irish family naming patterns usually followed the guidelines in the list below pretty closely:

1. The oldest son was named after the father’s father. (Therefore Denis's father's name would be Patrick. It’s possible as there is a Patrick in Lisquillabeen, Tipperary, Ireland where his oldest son Patrick is born)

2. The oldest daughter was named after the mother’s mother. (Margaret - we know that Ellen Loughnane's mother's name is Margaret who is from Ellen’s first marriage.)

3. The second son was named after the mother’s father. (therefore Denis's first wife's father would be Martin)

4. The third son was named after the father. (Denis)

5. The fourth son was named after the father’s oldest brother. (Michael)

6. The second daughter was named after the father’s mother. (Catherine - unknown)

7. The third daughter was named after the mother. (Ellen)

8. The fourth daughter was named after the mother’s oldest sister. (might be Holly or Anne) I find Holly on the 1871 Census but no reference to her before or after that.)

note: in the 1871 census there is a John, Margret and Patrick listed. I believe they are from a previous marriage of Ellen's to Michael Heenan.

IJH